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Join host Pamela Isom, a trusted leader with 25+ years of experience helping businesses thrive in the digital age. AI or Not The Podcast breaks down artificial intelligence, innovation, cybersecurity, and ethics into simple, actionable insights.
With inspiring guests from around the globe, Pamela explores how AI and emerging tech shape business, product innovation, and society. Whether you're a professional, leader, or innovator, this podcast offers guidance for navigating the ever-changing digital landscape.
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Ep. 051 AI or Not - Special Guest Dr. Kimberly Budil
In Episode 051, special guest Dr. Kimberly Budil, Director of The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, joins the conversation to explore how curiosity, clear storytelling, and public purpose drive scientific leadership. From fusion breakthroughs and AI-powered research to national security and public trust, Budil shares how translating complex science into shared understanding is essential for progress, and why science literacy matters now more than ever.


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